1 00:00:01,420 --> 00:00:04,840 Previously on L .A. Law. I made a list of reasons you want me to father your 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,180 child. I told you, this baby is the most important consideration in the world to 3 00:00:09,180 --> 00:00:10,700 me. Can I have the baby? 4 00:00:16,340 --> 00:00:21,140 I've been trying to convince myself I can do this, but the truth is, I can't. 5 00:00:24,860 --> 00:00:25,860 Hey, how you doing? 6 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Fine, thank you. 7 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:29,300 Get all your shopping done? 8 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:31,400 Most of it. How about you? 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,500 Nothing. I'm going to be in the stores like every night between now and 10 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:35,500 Christmas. 11 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:37,980 That's a pretty cross. 12 00:00:38,540 --> 00:00:39,540 Thanks. 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,160 Could I ask you a question? 14 00:00:41,460 --> 00:00:42,460 Mm -hmm. 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,740 Do you wear it as a religious symbol? 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,200 As opposed to what? 17 00:00:47,260 --> 00:00:48,260 The way it looks. 18 00:00:48,980 --> 00:00:50,940 I don't know. I don't usually separate the two things. 19 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:53,600 I was just curious. 20 00:00:55,100 --> 00:00:56,220 What are you curious about? 21 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,550 Well, I guess... I'm curious about whether or not you're a religious 22 00:01:01,550 --> 00:01:02,610 I know that's none of my business. 23 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:04,730 Well, if it so happens, I am. 24 00:01:08,930 --> 00:01:10,590 I'm not religious the way you are. 25 00:01:11,550 --> 00:01:12,550 That's all right. 26 00:01:12,810 --> 00:01:15,970 Is that all right? I don't mean to sound as if I'm judging you. It's just 27 00:01:15,970 --> 00:01:19,750 sometimes I feel that people who wear crosses, especially who wear ones like 28 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:23,130 that, it's just fashion. They don't think about what it stands for. You 29 00:01:23,130 --> 00:01:25,150 Jane, I went to Catholic school for 12 years. 30 00:01:26,010 --> 00:01:27,510 I know about Jesus Christ. 31 00:01:28,010 --> 00:01:29,290 I know about the Blessed Virgin. 32 00:01:29,690 --> 00:01:33,530 I know all the stations of the cross and all the sacraments and all about the 33 00:01:33,530 --> 00:01:34,530 lives of the saints, okay? 34 00:01:36,390 --> 00:01:40,710 Whether or not I still go to church, whether or not I read the Bible or even 35 00:01:40,710 --> 00:01:43,870 a Bible, this is as much mine to wear as it is yours. 36 00:01:45,090 --> 00:01:46,230 You're absolutely right. 37 00:03:21,260 --> 00:03:24,740 In the lane, snow is glistening. 38 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,780 A beautiful sight, we're happy tonight. 39 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,260 Walking in a winter wonderland. 40 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,580 Gone away is a bluebird. 41 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Here to stay is a new bird. 42 00:03:41,300 --> 00:03:44,680 He sings a love song as we go along. 43 00:03:45,180 --> 00:03:47,880 Walking in a winter wonderland. 44 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,540 Pincus versus Pincus. 45 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,120 We represent Nat Pinkett. 46 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,180 I'm appearing with the permission of the court. 47 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,420 Wait a minute. You represent the Nat Pinkett, the comedian? 48 00:03:57,660 --> 00:03:58,840 Right. You're kidding. 49 00:03:59,060 --> 00:04:02,140 What's the case? Nat's living with a woman who's about 30 years younger than 50 00:04:02,140 --> 00:04:05,740 him. His son thinks she's taking undue financial advantage, and he wants his 51 00:04:05,740 --> 00:04:07,700 father declared incompetent to manage his assets. 52 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:11,360 You see, everyone thinks a young woman could only be with an older man for his 53 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,260 money. The truth is, while I think this woman loves him, I've had my doubts 54 00:04:14,260 --> 00:04:15,600 about how competent Nat is. 55 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,500 Nat's no youngster. Does that correspond to his being incompetent, Douglas? 56 00:04:20,110 --> 00:04:21,109 Absolutely not. 57 00:04:21,110 --> 00:04:22,110 Move along. 58 00:04:22,190 --> 00:04:23,570 Ruskin versus Delgato. 59 00:04:23,810 --> 00:04:27,330 This is mine. We represent Bernard Ruskin, a poetry publisher. 60 00:04:27,550 --> 00:04:30,830 He owned a mailing list of people who buy poetry books and attend poetry 61 00:04:30,830 --> 00:04:36,050 readings. A former employee appropriated the list and gave it to Mr. Delgato, to 62 00:04:36,050 --> 00:04:37,050 whom he's currently employed. 63 00:04:37,330 --> 00:04:40,070 Is this likely to go to trial? We're very far apart. It may. 64 00:04:40,330 --> 00:04:41,430 Well, then why are you handling it? 65 00:04:42,210 --> 00:04:45,090 Because no one else is available. It's certainly not because... 66 00:04:45,390 --> 00:04:49,330 Poetry is something that appeals to me. Well, I never thought that it did. You 67 00:04:49,330 --> 00:04:53,170 just don't usually try cases. If I need help, I'll ask for it. You're a little 68 00:04:53,170 --> 00:04:54,250 defensive, aren't you, Douglas? 69 00:04:54,470 --> 00:04:55,249 Not at all. 70 00:04:55,250 --> 00:04:56,330 I'm not at all defensive. 71 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:57,690 I happen to love poetry. 72 00:04:58,050 --> 00:05:02,890 Do you really? Yeah. Emily Dickinson, T .S. Eliot, Shakespeare's sonnets. I love 73 00:05:02,890 --> 00:05:03,609 that stuff. 74 00:05:03,610 --> 00:05:07,090 Oh, I would like to remind everyone that for this year's Mackenzie Brackman 75 00:05:07,090 --> 00:05:11,830 Christmas Party, we are committed to a major gala. Chance to show off your 76 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:12,830 renovations, eh? 77 00:05:12,860 --> 00:05:14,240 Maybe you can recite something, Douglas. 78 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:16,700 This meeting's at your end. 79 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,940 What is your relationship to Nat Pinkett? 80 00:05:20,220 --> 00:05:21,220 He's my father. 81 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,540 How often do you see your father? 82 00:05:22,820 --> 00:05:24,540 I used to see him at least once a week. 83 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:30,700 That fell off to twice a month, then once a month, and then he stopped 84 00:05:30,700 --> 00:05:34,520 to see me at all. Was the diminution of visits with your father related to any 85 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,200 specific change in your father's life? 86 00:05:37,850 --> 00:05:41,910 It was related to Morgan Farrell coming to live in my father's house. Would you 87 00:05:41,910 --> 00:05:45,470 describe for us what your understanding of your father's relationship with Ms. 88 00:05:45,670 --> 00:05:46,670 Farrell is? 89 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:47,790 She's his mistress. 90 00:05:47,890 --> 00:05:51,130 And what was it about her moving into the house that resulted in your not 91 00:05:51,130 --> 00:05:53,110 your father as often as you had before? 92 00:05:53,450 --> 00:05:57,750 I felt as though she was controlling my father. I felt as though she was taking 93 00:05:57,750 --> 00:06:01,110 advantage of him. I spoke my mind. I became unwelcome in their home. 94 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:05,560 What specifically led you to believe that Miss Farrell was taking advantage 95 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,860 your father? A week after she moved in, he bought her a new Jaguar. 96 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,500 Inside of the first two months, she bought herself a Cartier watch. 97 00:06:13,780 --> 00:06:17,420 Two months ago, he put the house in her name. Would you describe how Miss 98 00:06:17,420 --> 00:06:19,080 Farrell behaved toward your father? 99 00:06:19,340 --> 00:06:23,900 She belittled him. It seemed to me that he was frightened of her, that he was 100 00:06:23,900 --> 00:06:25,040 desperate for her approval. 101 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,220 I felt then and I feel now that it is my duty as my father's son to intervene. 102 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,500 There are those who would say that you're after his money. I don't need his 103 00:06:33,500 --> 00:06:34,560 money. I have enough money. 104 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:35,980 Then why not let it go, Mr. 105 00:06:36,260 --> 00:06:38,620 Pincus? Why not just let your father live his own life? 106 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:39,880 Because I love him. 107 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,080 And I don't want to see him get hurt. 108 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:44,920 I have nothing further. 109 00:06:51,020 --> 00:06:54,280 Mr. Pincus, you said that Miss Farrell belittled your father. 110 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:55,940 Will you tell us the kinds of things she did? 111 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,140 She talked down to him. 112 00:06:58,960 --> 00:06:59,960 She'd get impatient. 113 00:07:00,060 --> 00:07:01,060 She'd interrupt him. 114 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,780 When he'd tell a joke, she'd hold up fingers to let him know how many times 115 00:07:05,780 --> 00:07:10,260 recently told it. My father doesn't get quiet too often. She could make him get 116 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:12,740 quiet. She also encouraged him to perform again, didn't she? 117 00:07:13,060 --> 00:07:15,740 Yes, she did. But my father didn't want to perform. 118 00:07:16,140 --> 00:07:20,120 He wanted to sit in kibitz with his friends at the Friars Club. He wanted to 119 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,420 play cards. Your father says otherwise, does he not? 120 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,040 My father says otherwise. 121 00:07:24,420 --> 00:07:25,420 You don't believe him? 122 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:27,840 My father... 123 00:07:28,170 --> 00:07:33,150 is absolutely terrified about getting on stage at this point in his life. He is 124 00:07:33,150 --> 00:07:35,410 terrified about getting through a routine. 125 00:07:35,730 --> 00:07:37,430 Is it that he's terrified or that you're embarrassed? 126 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:42,290 It's not like it used to be, Pop. Don't talk to me! Gentlemen, please, let's not 127 00:07:42,290 --> 00:07:43,330 address each other directly. 128 00:07:43,850 --> 00:07:47,030 Isn't it a fact, Mr. Pincus, that you walked out on your father when he was in 129 00:07:47,030 --> 00:07:49,990 the middle of performing at a Friars Club roast? Objection. I think that's 130 00:07:49,990 --> 00:07:50,990 completely irrelevant. 131 00:07:51,090 --> 00:07:56,910 When I was ten years old, I sat under a table at the nightclub... 132 00:07:57,210 --> 00:07:59,770 of the Concord to watch you perform. 133 00:08:00,210 --> 00:08:01,210 I was embarrassed. 134 00:08:03,210 --> 00:08:05,550 I was thrilled beyond belief. 135 00:08:07,970 --> 00:08:12,530 But you always said that you would know when to stop. 136 00:08:12,930 --> 00:08:16,870 You said you didn't want what happened to other comics to happen to you. 137 00:08:17,570 --> 00:08:18,930 It happened, Dad. 138 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:22,170 It happened. 139 00:08:23,250 --> 00:08:25,370 And I got to tell you when to stop. 140 00:08:28,750 --> 00:08:30,050 I gotta protect you. 141 00:08:35,330 --> 00:08:37,909 What is the nature of your operation, Mr. Del Giotto? 142 00:08:38,370 --> 00:08:39,990 I'm a promoter. What do you promote? 143 00:08:40,230 --> 00:08:41,149 All these shows. 144 00:08:41,150 --> 00:08:42,150 Rock concerts. 145 00:08:42,630 --> 00:08:45,230 Celebrity softball games, celebrity golf, celebrity tennis. 146 00:08:45,450 --> 00:08:46,450 We do it all. 147 00:08:46,590 --> 00:08:48,670 Including, of recent times, poetry readings. 148 00:08:48,970 --> 00:08:52,210 Right. You have an event coming up later this week, do you not? 149 00:08:52,430 --> 00:08:54,350 Yes, I do. I have a major event scheduled. 150 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:56,690 How did you go about advertising this event? 151 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,780 I put a couple ads in the paper, and we have a few radio spots running. You also 152 00:09:00,780 --> 00:09:02,280 use direct mail, do you not? 153 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,020 Yes, we do. That would suggest that you use a mailing list, is that correct? 154 00:09:06,820 --> 00:09:10,700 Right. How did you come into possession of that mailing list, Mr. Del Giotto? 155 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:16,140 Well, an individual who works for me compiled it. What was the name of that 156 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:17,140 individual? 157 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:18,560 Ira Maitelka. 158 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:22,440 Isn't it a fact that Ira Maitelka compiled that list while working for the 159 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,100 Southern California Poetry Society? 160 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:28,000 I wouldn't know how to answer that. Where was Ira working when you 161 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,940 him? You would know the answer to that. Mr. Brackman, could you control your 162 00:09:30,940 --> 00:09:31,940 client, please? 163 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,940 There's a vast untapped market in this country of people who are bound by the 164 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:39,960 love of verse, and I intend to tap into that market. You're not entitled to tap 165 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:44,420 into that market. You have no credibility as a poet. You have no 166 00:09:44,420 --> 00:09:47,660 a publisher. Meantime, I'm the one who's out there doing it, and I'm the one 167 00:09:47,660 --> 00:09:51,120 who's getting them in the tent, and I'm the one who's got Mamie Van Doren coming 168 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,700 in to read poetry, so don't talk to me about credibility. 169 00:09:58,480 --> 00:09:59,480 Hello, Tommy. 170 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:04,720 Thanks for seeing me. 171 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,260 I know my phone call must have seemed out of the blue. 172 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:08,840 Is everything okay? 173 00:10:09,140 --> 00:10:10,140 Oh, everything's fine. 174 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:12,580 How's that baby? 175 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:14,820 She's great. 176 00:10:17,060 --> 00:10:19,920 David Meyer and I got remarried. Yeah, I heard. 177 00:10:21,020 --> 00:10:22,640 David wants to adopt Casey. 178 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:25,260 In order for that to happen... 179 00:10:25,530 --> 00:10:27,890 We need for you to surrender parental rights. 180 00:10:28,350 --> 00:10:31,110 I assume that you'd have no objection to doing that. 181 00:10:32,530 --> 00:10:34,690 You know I've never even seen her. 182 00:10:35,450 --> 00:10:36,810 Well, she's right outside. 183 00:10:37,410 --> 00:10:38,810 Do you want me to bring her in? 184 00:10:41,170 --> 00:10:42,170 Yeah. 185 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:54,960 I'd like to ease any potential awkwardness here by saying that Roxanne 186 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,100 filled me in on the details of your relationship, and I just want you to 187 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:00,940 that the feeling I'm left with is one of overwhelming gratitude. 188 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:02,940 This is Casey. 189 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,880 Oh, you did good, Rox. 190 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,180 She's so pretty. 191 00:11:07,780 --> 00:11:09,280 Can I hold her for a minute? 192 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Come on. 193 00:11:23,460 --> 00:11:26,820 Can I have a little time to think about this? 194 00:11:27,060 --> 00:11:28,700 Do you need to think about it? 195 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:31,920 Yeah. 196 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,520 What do you consider to be a little time? 197 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:36,960 I don't know, Roxanne. 198 00:11:38,020 --> 00:11:40,660 We're leaving for Europe in less than two weeks, Tommy. 199 00:11:42,060 --> 00:11:43,260 I can't help that. 200 00:11:47,420 --> 00:11:48,420 Let's go, David. 201 00:11:58,540 --> 00:11:59,540 Tell me what happened. 202 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:05,860 What happened is that Tommy called me this morning and said that he wasn't 203 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:06,940 to agree to the adoption. 204 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,980 Can he do that? He's the biological father. He does have his rights where 205 00:12:10,980 --> 00:12:11,980 child is concerned. 206 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,080 You remember Arnie? 207 00:12:13,260 --> 00:12:17,780 He told me he had no faith in his ability to be a parent. Which, in the 208 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:19,060 eyes, will certainly help your case. 209 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,180 You think this will get to court? I think we should do everything we can to 210 00:12:22,180 --> 00:12:23,320 avoid getting to that point. 211 00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:24,580 Well, what should we do? 212 00:12:25,140 --> 00:12:27,420 I think we should sit down, the four of us. Discuss this. 213 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:31,150 Negotiate with Tommy. Find out what he wants and how we can possibly 214 00:12:31,150 --> 00:12:32,730 him. What if he still says no? 215 00:12:33,630 --> 00:12:34,750 Then we take him to court. 216 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:40,910 Tell me something. 217 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:42,029 What's that? 218 00:12:42,030 --> 00:12:43,170 I mean, I'm still new here. 219 00:12:44,010 --> 00:12:48,190 The other day, Miss Halliday said something to me, and I opened up my 220 00:12:48,190 --> 00:12:50,030 her. Is that like I had a line here or what? 221 00:12:50,350 --> 00:12:51,350 What'd you say? 222 00:12:52,070 --> 00:12:55,490 Well, she implied that this cross that I was wearing was sacrilegious. 223 00:12:56,660 --> 00:12:59,880 Did she say that? Well, not in so many words, but I know that's what she meant. 224 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,960 And what did you say? 225 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,800 Well, I told her I was a good Catholic girl and that I didn't need religious 226 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,800 instructions from her. 227 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Well, that doesn't sound all that out of line. 228 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,720 I know she's the lawyer and I'm the secretary, but so what? 229 00:13:12,500 --> 00:13:15,580 For what it's worth, I've never found Jane to be particularly judgmental about 230 00:13:15,580 --> 00:13:16,580 stuff like that. 231 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:17,840 Really? 232 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,500 She might have been just making conversation. 233 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,200 I don't know. 234 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,340 You were probably just thinking about all those times the nuns chastised you. 235 00:13:24,970 --> 00:13:27,370 What makes you think the nuns ever chat with me? 236 00:13:27,790 --> 00:13:28,790 Huh? 237 00:13:31,450 --> 00:13:36,910 In 1985, you were hired by Bernard Ruskin to work for the California Poetry 238 00:13:36,910 --> 00:13:38,170 Society. Is that right? 239 00:13:38,510 --> 00:13:40,790 Yeah. What exactly were you hired to do? 240 00:13:41,510 --> 00:13:46,370 General clerical work. We published a number of poetry anthologies. We 241 00:13:46,370 --> 00:13:47,370 poetry readings. 242 00:13:47,690 --> 00:13:49,670 I was basically in charge of the paperwork. 243 00:13:50,050 --> 00:13:52,630 When did you leave your job at the California Poetry Society? 244 00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:54,470 I left in 1991. 245 00:13:54,850 --> 00:13:58,410 And you left to go to work for Bobby Del Giotto. Is that correct? 246 00:13:58,830 --> 00:14:02,610 Yes. It was you who furnished Mr. Del Giotto with the mailing list. 247 00:14:02,850 --> 00:14:07,330 Yes, it was. Did you receive permission, either express or implied, for Mr. 248 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:10,970 Ruskin to do so? As far as I'm concerned, I didn't need his permission. 249 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:15,490 I compiled that mailing list. I think that list was mine to do with as I 250 00:14:15,490 --> 00:14:19,790 pleased. I think you'll find the law says otherwise, Ira. That list was my 251 00:14:20,140 --> 00:14:23,780 Those people were my people. Mr. Metallica, is it not correct that while 252 00:14:23,780 --> 00:14:28,260 were in the employ of Mr. Ruskin, Mr. Del Giotto approached you and offered 253 00:14:28,260 --> 00:14:31,780 more money if you would go work for him? The money didn't matter to me. Believe 254 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:36,660 me, I didn't put in the kind of hours I did for Bernard for the stinking $300 a 255 00:14:36,660 --> 00:14:40,800 week. Why did you? Because he was supposed to publish a book of my poetry. 256 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:43,240 He was supposed to give me my own reading. 257 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,220 I worked for him for six years, and the whole time he kept stringing me along, 258 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:52,340 and he never did. what he said he'd do. You weren't ready. I was ready, Bernard. 259 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,560 I gave you over 200 poems to choose from. I felt that you were derivative, 260 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,480 You always say that. How was I derivative? 261 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,840 You aped the beat poet and fell prey to their worst excess. I did not ape the 262 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,000 beat. Yes, you did. At least let's not use this occasion to corrupt our 263 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,640 aesthetic judgment. All right, I've had it. 264 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,420 What's it going to take to settle this? What are you offering? Bobby, I'm not 265 00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:11,420 sure we have to offer anything. 266 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 I don't care, Lanny. I got the expo starting tomorrow night. 267 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,800 I can't keep going around and around with this nonsense. 268 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Give us a figure. 269 00:15:18,490 --> 00:15:19,490 $15 ,000. 270 00:15:19,750 --> 00:15:23,270 What are you paying Mamie Van Doren? That's not your concern. I am not going 271 00:15:23,270 --> 00:15:27,130 turn the sacred into the profane for a few pieces of silver. I have devoted 272 00:15:27,130 --> 00:15:31,850 myself to the veneration of the poet, the true poet. I am not about to 273 00:15:31,850 --> 00:15:36,410 with a man who would propagate the masturbatory revelations of sitcom 274 00:15:36,630 --> 00:15:41,670 Your Poet Expo has met the resolve of a man who believes in the verities of W 275 00:15:41,670 --> 00:15:46,290 .H. Auden and Ezra Pound. And I intend to do everything within my power to make 276 00:15:46,290 --> 00:15:48,810 sure that that grotesque event... Never takes place. 277 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:52,310 What is your occupation, Mr. Tavelman? 278 00:15:52,510 --> 00:15:53,510 Personal management. 279 00:15:53,890 --> 00:15:55,070 Do you know Nat Pincus? 280 00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:57,130 For more than 40 years. 281 00:15:57,510 --> 00:15:59,270 What is your relationship with him? 282 00:15:59,510 --> 00:16:00,730 I was his manager. 283 00:16:01,050 --> 00:16:04,030 You're speaking in the past tense. Are you no longer his manager? 284 00:16:04,370 --> 00:16:06,530 That's right. I am no longer his manager. 285 00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:10,230 What were the circumstances under which you stopped being his manager? 286 00:16:10,490 --> 00:16:12,650 The circumstances were that he fired me. 287 00:16:12,850 --> 00:16:14,690 What was your understanding of the reason for that? 288 00:16:14,950 --> 00:16:16,250 Because I told him the truth. 289 00:16:16,650 --> 00:16:18,290 He wants to buy her clothes, fine. 290 00:16:18,650 --> 00:16:19,650 Jewelry, fine. 291 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:24,650 A car, also fine. But I drew the line at putting the house in her name, and I 292 00:16:24,650 --> 00:16:27,470 drew the line at letting her make decisions about his life. 293 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:31,650 Would you give your impression of Mr. Pincus' mental condition over the last 294 00:16:31,650 --> 00:16:34,630 year? Objection. The witness isn't qualified to respond to that question. 295 00:16:34,630 --> 00:16:38,150 Honor, it's not coming in as expert testimony. It's coming in as the lay 296 00:16:38,150 --> 00:16:42,290 of someone who has seen Mr. Pincus at least once a week for 40 years. That 297 00:16:42,290 --> 00:16:45,210 doesn't qualify him to testify to a mental condition. No, the objection's 298 00:16:45,210 --> 00:16:46,350 overruled. can answer. 299 00:16:46,710 --> 00:16:50,190 Mr. Tavelman? His mental condition is that he's slipping. 300 00:16:50,790 --> 00:16:51,970 He gets confused. 301 00:16:52,370 --> 00:16:56,050 He says things and then he forgets that he said them. We would talk about 302 00:16:56,050 --> 00:17:00,450 finances, we would talk about the girl, we would talk about what we had for 303 00:17:00,450 --> 00:17:01,450 lunch. 304 00:17:01,670 --> 00:17:05,829 Sometimes he could follow the conversation and sometimes he couldn't. 305 00:17:05,829 --> 00:17:10,190 would like to ask for an expert opinion, Mr. Tavelman. I'd like to ask what the 306 00:17:10,190 --> 00:17:12,869 condition of Nat Pinkett's finances are. 307 00:17:13,069 --> 00:17:15,349 They're the worst they've been in 35 years. 308 00:17:15,930 --> 00:17:19,970 He has less money in the bank and a greater tax liability than he's had 309 00:17:19,970 --> 00:17:22,510 the late 50s. And what would you attribute this to? 310 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:26,530 I attribute it to her, and to the fact that Nat can't say no to her. 311 00:17:26,930 --> 00:17:29,090 Objection. Sustained. I have nothing further. 312 00:17:32,950 --> 00:17:36,730 How did you feel about Nat's performance again, Mr. Tavellman? If I thought it 313 00:17:36,730 --> 00:17:39,350 was something that Nat wanted to do, it would be one thing. 314 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,760 The only reason he's doing it is because Miss Farrell over there wants him to. 315 00:17:43,860 --> 00:17:47,220 She wants to be a producer, and he's her ticket. I asked the witness's remarks 316 00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:49,280 regarding what Morgan Farrell wants be stricken. 317 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,320 So stricken? It's a fact, is it not, sir, that in the last four years you've 318 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,160 served at least nominally as Nat Pincus's manager, you've got him no 319 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:57,819 any kind. 320 00:17:57,820 --> 00:18:00,720 He didn't want any bookings. He didn't want to be working. You say that 321 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,080 notwithstanding the fact that soon after Miss Farrell began serving as his 322 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,080 manager, he was working. 323 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,320 Yeah, he was working. He was working for her. 324 00:18:07,580 --> 00:18:08,580 Mr. Tavenin. 325 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,820 You said that you drew the line at transferring the house. 326 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,220 You drew the line at Miss Farrell making decisions. 327 00:18:14,420 --> 00:18:18,620 Was it really your job to draw the line? Exactly, Mr. Payne. Hey, Junior, we go 328 00:18:18,620 --> 00:18:20,440 back to 1953 together. 329 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,120 Nobody ever told me what was or what wasn't my job. Is it possible, Mr. 330 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:27,840 Tavelman, that you're angry because somebody finally did? 331 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:28,979 Oh, please. 332 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:31,020 I'm up here for only one reason. 333 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:33,220 Because I love this guy. 334 00:18:33,710 --> 00:18:37,730 Nat, you're making an idiot of yourself, and you're doing it over a bra. You 335 00:18:37,730 --> 00:18:40,790 should be so lucky, Jack. You should be so lucky to have one like this. Mr. 336 00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:43,090 Pincus, you're wearing my patience. 337 00:18:43,570 --> 00:18:44,570 Excuse me, Judge. 338 00:18:45,390 --> 00:18:47,910 So happened I got this jacket at Cy DeVore. 339 00:18:49,250 --> 00:18:50,830 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 340 00:18:53,050 --> 00:18:56,890 What I think we can accomplish here is talk some things through, work out an 341 00:18:56,890 --> 00:19:00,450 arrangement we can all live with. We are not unconcerned with your feelings in 342 00:19:00,450 --> 00:19:01,450 all this, Tom. 343 00:19:01,590 --> 00:19:06,150 No. Absolutely not. It is a sensitive proposition, and if we have been 344 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:08,730 in any way about what you're thinking or feeling, then we apologize. 345 00:19:09,050 --> 00:19:11,070 I think that's a fair statement, don't you, Roxanne? 346 00:19:11,590 --> 00:19:14,590 We'd be very interested in hearing what it is you are thinking. 347 00:19:14,850 --> 00:19:18,590 I have some concerns about my daughter's future, and I think I'm within my 348 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:20,470 rights to have them. No argument here. 349 00:19:20,690 --> 00:19:22,230 I don't consider her to be your daughter. 350 00:19:22,530 --> 00:19:24,210 Roxanne, let's try and be constructive. 351 00:19:24,490 --> 00:19:27,330 And let's address Tom's concerns about Dave Meyer, father. 352 00:19:28,090 --> 00:19:29,090 Will I be loving? 353 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:30,350 Answer yes. 354 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,620 Will I be steadfast? Answer another yes. Forgive me. 355 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,560 I don't even know you. What I know is that when Roxanne was married to you the 356 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,180 first time, she was utterly miserable. 357 00:19:40,540 --> 00:19:41,540 Okay, that's fair. 358 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,940 I won't deny that Roxanne and I went through a blue period. 359 00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:48,640 But the point I want to hammer home right now is that things are different. 360 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:54,000 She is, if I may say so, Roxanne, not miserable now. I love her and her 361 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:54,999 very much. 362 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,820 And there's nothing I want more than to take care of the both of them. With all 363 00:19:57,820 --> 00:20:00,980 due respect, Dave, that's lip service. You want something. You're saying what 364 00:20:00,980 --> 00:20:04,500 you think you have to to get it. But there is no indication that this 365 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:07,280 is going to work out any better than the first one did. Who the hell do you 366 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:10,740 think you are? Roxanne, wait a minute. Who the hell do you think you are to sit 367 00:20:10,740 --> 00:20:15,060 there and pass judgments on him, our marriage, or anything else pertaining to 368 00:20:15,060 --> 00:20:16,620 daughter's life? Roxanne. You walked away. 369 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:20,420 You walked away from me. You walked away from the child you helped create. 370 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,780 Suddenly, you've got concerns. 371 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,340 Suddenly, you've got opinions about things. 372 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,660 Oh, I don't want to hear your opinions. 373 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:31,400 I don't want to hear your concerns. As far as I can see, you have absolutely 374 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:36,120 nothing to say. Not about me, not about my marriage, not about my kid. 375 00:20:36,380 --> 00:20:38,440 I don't want you in our life. 376 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,620 I don't want you in my life. We don't need you, Tommy. 377 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:44,420 We don't want you. 378 00:20:51,220 --> 00:20:52,220 Miss Farrell. 379 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,560 Would you describe to the court the type of relationship you have with Mr. 380 00:20:55,580 --> 00:20:57,100 Pincus? Nat and I live together. 381 00:20:57,340 --> 00:21:00,960 Is it reasonable to assume, then, that you're in a position to observe him over 382 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,960 the course of a day? 383 00:21:02,020 --> 00:21:05,000 Yes. In your opinion, is Mr. Pincus frail? 384 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:07,480 No. Is he apt to become confused? 385 00:21:07,980 --> 00:21:11,320 No more so than I am. Would you describe the state of his health generally? 386 00:21:11,580 --> 00:21:15,800 He has some health problems. His pressure will go up. His arthritis will 387 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,400 him. He has to take it easy more now than in the past. 388 00:21:18,660 --> 00:21:19,720 But I'll tell you something. 389 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:21,940 He's got all of his faculties. 390 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,460 At the time you met him, was Nat Pinkus actively performing as a comedian? 391 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,260 No, he wasn't. Have you encouraged him to go back out on stage as a comedian, 392 00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:30,279 Miss Farrell? 393 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,219 Yes, I did. 394 00:21:31,220 --> 00:21:32,820 Did you pressure him to go back on stage? 395 00:21:33,220 --> 00:21:34,220 No, I did not. 396 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,660 Nat was performing his whole life. He got back out on stage because he wanted 397 00:21:38,660 --> 00:21:41,780 to. It's been alleged that you wield a great deal of influence over Nat Pinkus. 398 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:42,980 How do you respond to that? 399 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,280 I don't wield anything. 400 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:46,200 Nat loves me. 401 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,580 When you love somebody, you want to make them happy. 402 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,040 I think that goes both ways for us. 403 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,080 I have no further questions, Your Honor. 404 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Is it your testimony, Miss Farrell, that Nat Pincus is competent to manage his 405 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,839 own affairs? 406 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,020 Yes, it is. Did Nat pick out the Jaguar? He wanted to buy me a car. 407 00:22:06,740 --> 00:22:09,460 I picked out the Jaguar. How about the Cartier watch? 408 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,480 He wanted to buy me a gift. We went shopping. I told him what I liked. 409 00:22:13,820 --> 00:22:18,120 After about a month of living together, you didn't have to tell him, did you? I 410 00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:19,120 don't know what that means. 411 00:22:19,340 --> 00:22:22,960 Well, it means that you had Nat set up credit cards for you. You had his 412 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,899 checking accounts. 413 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:28,020 You were free to spend Nat's money any way you wanted, weren't you? I wanted it 414 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:32,020 that way. I did it. I wanted it that way. Mr. Pincus, that's enough. Your 415 00:22:32,140 --> 00:22:34,820 I would object to this whole line of questioning. The issue here is 416 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,660 not the relationship between Mr. Pincus and Ms. Farrell. Your Honor, we would 417 00:22:37,660 --> 00:22:41,780 argue that the basis for the relationship between these two people is 418 00:22:41,980 --> 00:22:46,360 Pincus's competence, or lack thereof. We would argue that Ms. Farrell has taken 419 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:50,560 full advantage of that lack of competence. and I believe that we're 420 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,500 demonstrate that. The court would agree. The objection's overruled. Whose idea 421 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:56,980 was it to put the house in your name, Miss Farrell? 422 00:22:57,180 --> 00:22:59,900 It was Nat's. He said it was better for taxes that way. 423 00:23:00,420 --> 00:23:01,420 Better for taxes? 424 00:23:02,220 --> 00:23:06,140 Do you recall an incident that took place in Nate and Al's restaurant on the 425 00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:09,020 morning of March 19th, 1992? I know what you're referring to. While having 426 00:23:09,020 --> 00:23:12,960 breakfast there, you and Mr. Pincus had an argument, is that right? Yes. And you 427 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,240 walked out of the restaurant leaving Mr. Pincus behind, did you not? Yes, I did. 428 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:18,139 How did Mr. 429 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:20,600 Pincus get home that day, Miss Farrell? 430 00:23:21,180 --> 00:23:22,580 He came home in a police car. 431 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,980 Isn't what happened that Nat Pincus tried to reach you on the phone? 432 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,700 Couldn't. Wandered lost around Beverly Hills until he was finally picked up by 433 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:35,280 the police because he was found sitting on someone's lawn and crying at 9 o 434 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,280 'clock that night. He became disoriented. 435 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,720 We'd had a fight. 436 00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:43,300 It wasn't because he's senile or he can't decide things for himself. 437 00:23:44,020 --> 00:23:46,480 Could have happened to anybody what happened to him. 438 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,920 I never should have left him. 439 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,780 Don't upset yourself, honey. 440 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,120 Don't upset yourself. 441 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,440 Mr. Pincus. Don't pay attention to any of this. 442 00:23:57,150 --> 00:24:00,170 What's going on here has nothing to do with you. 443 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:07,270 We can't stop the expo from going forward, Bernard. 444 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:08,509 And why is that? 445 00:24:08,510 --> 00:24:10,290 We don't have adequate grounds for an injunction. 446 00:24:10,610 --> 00:24:14,650 That sounds very general to me, Douglas. Tell me specifically, what grounds are 447 00:24:14,650 --> 00:24:15,329 we lacking? 448 00:24:15,330 --> 00:24:17,450 A showing of irreparable harm. 449 00:24:17,670 --> 00:24:21,130 You can't get a temporary restraining order without a showing of immediate and 450 00:24:21,130 --> 00:24:24,210 irreparable harm, particularly when there's a third party involved. In this 451 00:24:24,210 --> 00:24:26,030 case, those people who have already bought the tickets. 452 00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:28,290 Well, I'm not sure I accept that thesis. 453 00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:31,510 I've had a lot of people working on this, Bernard. I've researched this 454 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:32,510 thoroughly. 455 00:24:33,030 --> 00:24:34,430 I must say, I'm disappointed. 456 00:24:35,610 --> 00:24:37,450 We're still proceeding with the lawsuit. 457 00:24:37,790 --> 00:24:38,850 Well, I would assume so. 458 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:43,830 You know, I have to tell you something, Bernard. 459 00:24:45,250 --> 00:24:46,250 What's that? 460 00:24:46,610 --> 00:24:48,370 I've been reading a little poetry lately. 461 00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:52,990 Is that right? Last night, unable to sleep, I found myself thumbing through a 462 00:24:52,990 --> 00:24:53,990 volume of Kipling. 463 00:24:54,600 --> 00:25:00,080 Though I've belted you and flayed you by the living God that made you, you're a 464 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,940 better man than I am, Gunga Din. 465 00:25:02,620 --> 00:25:04,040 Pretty great, wouldn't you say? 466 00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:05,460 Great? No. 467 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,640 You don't think Gunga Din's a great poem? 468 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,740 No, Douglas, I don't. I think it's mawkish, sentimental, hopelessly 469 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:15,200 paternalistic, reactionary doggerel. You certainly have the right to enjoy it, 470 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,720 but rest assured, it doesn't even faintly resemble a great poem. 471 00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:22,180 Nothing by Kipling? No, Douglas, nothing by Kipling. 472 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Mr. Pincus, A great deal is made of the fact that you resumed performing. 473 00:25:27,140 --> 00:25:28,940 I'd like you to tell the court why you did so. 474 00:25:29,180 --> 00:25:30,260 What should I do? 475 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:31,640 I'm a comedian. 476 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,960 Comedians perform. 477 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,540 But you had stopped performing. 478 00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:36,260 What was it that made you start again? 479 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:37,559 She did. 480 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,000 She became my manager. She became my agent. All of a sudden, I had work. 481 00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:45,540 Before she came into the picture, most people thought I was dead. 482 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Two old Jews run into one another in the street. One looks at the other and 483 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,740 says, Was it you or your brother who died? 484 00:25:51,980 --> 00:25:53,440 Mr. Pinkett, I appreciate the humor. 485 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:57,000 Nonetheless, if you could, I'd like you to confine your remarks to answering the 486 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,140 questions. It was apropos, Judge. That's all. 487 00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:00,820 Mr. Pinkett, do you read the paper? 488 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,980 Every day. Do you vote? Every election. Twice. 489 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,460 Are you taking any medication on a regular basis? 490 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,880 My pressure. That's it. Are you prone to become disoriented or confused? 491 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:16,620 Matt. It happened that one time after leaving Nightingale's. That's it. 492 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,980 I had the flu. I wasn't feeling well. I stepped out onto Beverly Drive. I didn't 493 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:22,980 know where I was. 494 00:26:23,020 --> 00:26:26,920 Mr. Pinkett, I would like you to tell the court whether you feel as though you 495 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,100 can still manage your own affairs. 496 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,440 Yes, I can. 497 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,440 My son may not approve of what I do with my money. He may not approve of who I 498 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,640 choose to be friends with. He may not approve of me being back on the stage. 499 00:26:37,780 --> 00:26:39,540 Last time I looked, I didn't need his approval. 500 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:40,880 I have no further questions. 501 00:26:41,380 --> 00:26:42,380 Thank you. 502 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,680 Is it your testimony, Mr. Pincus, that you are in all respects capable of 503 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,680 performing again? 504 00:26:50,780 --> 00:26:55,020 My dear, when they stop laughing, I'll know it's time to call it quits. How 505 00:26:55,020 --> 00:26:56,960 about when you have to be escorted off the stage? 506 00:26:57,260 --> 00:26:58,720 You're talking about the prize club. 507 00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:02,620 That's not what happened. Is it your testimony that you were not escorted off 508 00:27:02,620 --> 00:27:03,339 the stage? 509 00:27:03,340 --> 00:27:08,720 It was a bit. I worked it into the routine. Was rambling incoherently for 510 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,340 minutes on the stage prior to that also a bit? 511 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,179 Everybody's a critic. 512 00:27:14,180 --> 00:27:15,159 Mr. Pincus. 513 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,660 That Friars Club appearance was part of a larger effort, was it not? 514 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,520 I don't know what means larger effort. 515 00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:24,920 Was not Miss Farrell trying to produce a special on old comedians for HBO? 516 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,960 Showtime or whoever she could sell it to. 517 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,020 She's still going to. Isn't what happened, Mr. Pincus, that Ms. 518 00:27:32,340 --> 00:27:34,640 Farrell's brow beat you into performing? 519 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,920 Absolutely not. Did you or did you not tell your son that Ms. Farrell had 520 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,800 threatened to leave you if you did not perform? 521 00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:45,860 Absolutely not. Did you tell your son that she had promised to reward you with 522 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:47,400 oral sex if you did? 523 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:51,240 Objection, Your Honor. I never would have repeated something like that. 524 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,740 I have no further questions. 525 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,900 Excuse me. You almost through? 526 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,540 No. I'm going to be a while. 527 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,040 Ann? 528 00:28:13,580 --> 00:28:18,300 Yeah. I'm going to do something that I thought I would mention to you on the 529 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,600 chance that it might appeal to you as something to do. 530 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,640 What? Just because of what you said in the staff meeting, vis -a -vis your 531 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,640 appreciation of poetry. 532 00:28:26,380 --> 00:28:27,920 That's why I thought I'd mention it. 533 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:30,100 Mention what, Douglas? You haven't mentioned anything. 534 00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:32,640 There's something called a poetry expo. 535 00:28:32,860 --> 00:28:37,540 Given our client's pending action against the promoter, I have to go. I 536 00:28:37,540 --> 00:28:38,780 you might actually want to go. 537 00:28:39,180 --> 00:28:40,920 That's the reason I mentioned it. 538 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,500 I would love to go. 539 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,000 I think 540 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:53,700 we could probably move on. 541 00:28:54,860 --> 00:28:58,240 I can't help but feel as though this does represent a corruption of some 542 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,280 I don't know about this. People enjoy this. 543 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Who's to say what's serious poetry and what's not? 544 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,020 This is by Ellen Ginsberg, and the name of it is Howl. I can't believe that 545 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:11,100 Mamie Van Doren is actually sitting there. I was in love with her. 546 00:29:11,340 --> 00:29:13,680 You knew she was going to be here, right? But I didn't think she'd actually 547 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:20,380 show. I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, 548 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,280 hysterical, naked. 549 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,500 dragging themselves through the Negro streets at dawn, looking for an angry 550 00:29:28,500 --> 00:29:31,460 thick. When was it you were in love with her? I was a teenager. 551 00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:35,680 Outside of a few relatives and some schoolteachers, she may have been the 552 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:36,940 woman I ever had dreams about. 553 00:29:38,180 --> 00:29:43,100 I'm with you in Rockland in my dreams. 554 00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:50,440 You walk dripping from a sea journey on the highway across America in tears to 555 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,440 the door. 556 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:54,870 of my cottage in the western night 557 00:29:54,870 --> 00:30:02,750 there's 558 00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:08,910 both literature and business opportunities on display here so if 559 00:30:08,910 --> 00:30:13,310 fledgling allen ginsburg and you want to see yourself in print there's a number 560 00:30:13,310 --> 00:30:17,690 of very attractive and affordable self -publishing packages you want to find 561 00:30:17,690 --> 00:30:22,500 more about and for those of you want to stick around here We have the avant 562 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:24,720 -garde poetry of Ira Mitzel. 563 00:30:29,540 --> 00:30:35,080 Excuse me, Miss Van Doren. I just want to say I've never forgotten you from 564 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,080 School Confidential. 565 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,720 Aren't you sweet. And I've never forgotten you from Three Nuts in Search 566 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,020 Bolt. Well, thanks. 567 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,480 And, you know, I'd just like to invite you to our office Christmas party. 568 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:47,900 I'll try and make it. 569 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,300 It'll be fun. 570 00:30:52,660 --> 00:30:59,580 I'm taking handfuls of St. Joseph aspirin for children, and I'm loving 571 00:30:59,580 --> 00:31:00,660 what it does to me. 572 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,400 The ratcheting, ratcheting, ratcheting is still. 573 00:31:06,540 --> 00:31:07,980 It's finally still. 574 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,280 Look at yourself, Byron. 575 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,520 Look what you've surrounded yourself with, Bernard. 576 00:31:15,530 --> 00:31:19,170 I thought you wanted to be taken seriously. I thought that was the whole 577 00:31:19,270 --> 00:31:20,490 What I want is to be heard. 578 00:31:20,710 --> 00:31:24,810 What I want is for my poems to be read and listened to by people from all 579 00:31:24,810 --> 00:31:30,110 different walks of life. Not just by self -appointed arbiters of what's 580 00:31:30,110 --> 00:31:31,490 and serious and what's not. 581 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:35,490 I have no trouble whatsoever looking at myself, Bernard. 582 00:31:35,870 --> 00:31:38,450 I'm up on a stage. I'm reading my poetry. 583 00:31:38,670 --> 00:31:41,050 And Mr. Del Giotto said he would get me published. 584 00:31:41,310 --> 00:31:44,730 That right there makes me a lot better off than I ever was with you. 585 00:31:45,260 --> 00:31:48,800 Gregory Corso says, poets walk with kings. 586 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,520 And that's what I want. 587 00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,900 I want to walk with kings. 588 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,520 Tommy, why don't you begin? 589 00:32:13,620 --> 00:32:15,680 Actually, I'd like to say something to Roxanne. 590 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,260 Alone, it's okay. 591 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,880 Okay. 592 00:32:24,180 --> 00:32:25,580 All right, we'll be in my office. 593 00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:45,750 I'm listening. 594 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:50,170 I made a lot of mistakes this past year. 595 00:32:50,750 --> 00:32:51,750 I know that. 596 00:32:54,750 --> 00:33:01,710 But when I looked into our baby's face, it seemed like a miracle 597 00:33:01,710 --> 00:33:03,910 that something so good came out of all those mistakes. 598 00:33:06,290 --> 00:33:09,310 I'm asking that you not shut me out of her life. 599 00:33:12,170 --> 00:33:13,730 What exactly do you want? 600 00:33:19,150 --> 00:33:24,470 time stories help her with her homework i want to start a college fund i want to 601 00:33:24,470 --> 00:33:28,870 pay for a wedding it's too late for me to make it up to you but i got a chance 602 00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:35,390 to make it up to her i want her to know me roxanne i want her to love me not 603 00:33:35,390 --> 00:33:41,190 because i'm her biological father but because i've been there for her because 604 00:33:41,190 --> 00:33:45,350 she'll know there isn't anything in the world i care about more than her 605 00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:46,350 happiness 606 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:54,200 I may not have the right to ask it of you, Rox, but I'm asking anyway. 607 00:33:56,540 --> 00:33:57,780 Let me be your father. 608 00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:06,279 All right. 609 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,260 What was so important that it couldn't wait? 610 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:11,760 We have a proposal to make. 611 00:34:11,980 --> 00:34:13,020 What kind of proposal? 612 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,120 We drop our lawsuit in return for you applying your promotional efforts to Mr. 613 00:34:17,260 --> 00:34:20,780 Ruskin's work. What does that mean? Mr. Ruskin would like to enter into a joint 614 00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:25,139 venture whereby his poetry anthologies and journals are marketed by you. He's 615 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:27,940 interested in you distributing a catalog of spoken word records. 616 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,940 And he would like a booth at the Poetry Expo. 617 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,940 Well, well. No doubt you'll view this as an occasion for gloating. 618 00:34:36,330 --> 00:34:39,690 I have to say that some amount of gloating would be appropriate, wouldn't 619 00:34:39,690 --> 00:34:43,310 assume you're curious as to the cause of this change of heart. Hey, Bernard, I 620 00:34:43,310 --> 00:34:44,310 know what caused it. 621 00:34:44,469 --> 00:34:47,449 You came to the hotel last night. You saw the scene. 622 00:34:47,810 --> 00:34:49,250 You saw what I can do. 623 00:34:49,830 --> 00:34:52,710 And you said to yourself, how can I be a part of this? 624 00:34:52,929 --> 00:34:57,650 What I said to myself was that there were some projects where perhaps the two 625 00:34:57,650 --> 00:34:58,930 us could combine our talents. 626 00:34:59,250 --> 00:35:01,750 Like what? Like I was thinking of a Robert Lowell festival. 627 00:35:02,230 --> 00:35:07,310 Also, 1994 is the sesquicentennial, the 158th anniversary of Gerard Manley 628 00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:11,590 Hopkins' birth. I thought perhaps we could do something surrounding that. 629 00:35:11,590 --> 00:35:14,350 what? Like, what do you mean, like what? Like what you do. 630 00:35:15,170 --> 00:35:19,110 Like, make a big event out of it. 631 00:35:20,570 --> 00:35:21,690 Have cameras there. 632 00:35:22,090 --> 00:35:23,090 And celebrities. 633 00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:25,050 Like what? 634 00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:31,150 I'm tired of the obscurity. All right? 635 00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:36,210 I'm tired of the same few souls who meet in musty second floor meeting rooms. 636 00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:41,370 All of them poets. All of them academic smartasses who don't make money and who 637 00:35:41,370 --> 00:35:42,530 don't meet women. 638 00:35:42,750 --> 00:35:45,190 They're all just like me, and I'm sick of them. 639 00:35:47,610 --> 00:35:48,870 I want some action. 640 00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:58,850 After considering all the testimony and all of the evidence, one thing that I 641 00:35:58,850 --> 00:36:05,290 can safely say is that this is Not a case that can be resolved easily or 642 00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:06,290 painlessly. 643 00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:09,630 Possibly it's a case that can't be resolved at all. 644 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:14,230 That notwithstanding, for our purposes, resolve it we must. 645 00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:20,450 I'm not prepared to rule on Ms. Farrell's motives, nor is it 646 00:36:20,450 --> 00:36:23,230 think, that I do so, because only she knows what's in her heart. 647 00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:29,530 I will admit to having a great concern for the welfare of Nat Pincus. 648 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,660 Nonetheless, the evidence is far from conclusive that his decisions are not 649 00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:37,940 reasonable ones, nor is it conclusive that he's being taken advantage of, if 650 00:36:37,940 --> 00:36:40,460 that is in fact what someone close to him is trying to do. 651 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:45,220 That said, I find the evidence insufficient to declare Mr. Pincus 652 00:36:45,220 --> 00:36:46,220 manage his own affairs. 653 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,540 However, should his condition worsen, I will entertain a new motion. 654 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,800 In the meantime, the motion is denied. 655 00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:04,330 Dad, I'm sorry for putting you through all of this. 656 00:37:05,970 --> 00:37:06,970 Tell her. 657 00:37:14,050 --> 00:37:15,050 It's okay. 658 00:37:23,780 --> 00:37:26,080 Well, Merry Christmas, Jonathan. 659 00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:31,840 Move along, Douglas. I loved your reading yesterday. 660 00:37:32,260 --> 00:37:34,860 Really? What was it that you loved? 661 00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:39,160 Me reading Alan Ginsberg or me wearing what I was wearing? 662 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:40,640 It was both. 663 00:37:42,140 --> 00:37:43,960 Don't lie to me now, Douglas. 664 00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:46,400 Maybe. It so happens I love poetry. 665 00:37:47,230 --> 00:37:48,149 Do you? 666 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:53,330 Ship me somewhere east of Suez, where the best is like the worst, where there 667 00:37:53,330 --> 00:37:56,290 aren't no Ten Commandments and a man can raise a thirst. 668 00:37:57,510 --> 00:38:03,990 Oh, the road to Mandalay, where the flying fishes play, and the dawn comes 669 00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:04,990 like thunder. 670 00:38:05,650 --> 00:38:08,970 Outer China, across the bay. 671 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:11,590 You like Kipling. 672 00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:14,370 I love Kipling. 673 00:38:14,670 --> 00:38:16,590 For they're done with Danny Deaver. 674 00:38:17,070 --> 00:38:21,330 You can hear the quick step play, the regiments in column, and they're 675 00:38:21,330 --> 00:38:22,169 us away. 676 00:38:22,170 --> 00:38:27,810 Oh, the recruits are shaken, and they'll want their beer today after hanging 677 00:38:27,810 --> 00:38:29,190 Danny Deaver in the morning. 678 00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:33,110 No one loves Kiffin more than I do. 679 00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:37,890 Aren't you coming to the party? 680 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:40,950 I'm going to finish this up first. I'll be right out. 681 00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:44,470 You know that poetry thing I went to yesterday? 682 00:38:45,190 --> 00:38:46,190 Mm -hmm. 683 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,640 You'll never believe what I dug up when I came home. 684 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,540 What? I dug up a notebook of poetry that I wrote when I was a sophomore at Mount 685 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:55,540 Holyoke. You're kidding. 686 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:01,720 That I would actually have sat down and written some of these is truly hard to 687 00:39:01,720 --> 00:39:03,120 imagine. I bet it is. 688 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,620 Listen to this. I want to give you an idea of my state of mind at the time. 689 00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:09,980 Oh, rain. 690 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,520 Oh, driving, relentless, unconflicted rain. 691 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,700 Everything I look at is gray. 692 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:17,380 And still. 693 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:21,260 All except for a ripe green pear. 694 00:39:23,700 --> 00:39:24,700 Hi, little cat. 695 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:28,640 What sets me apart from you? It must be that I'm sad. 696 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,520 What do you mean? 697 00:39:35,780 --> 00:39:38,440 I mean, you're right. It's pretty bad. 698 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,820 Hi, little cat. I don't remember saying that I thought it was bad, Stuart. 699 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,718 You did. 700 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:45,720 I thought... 701 00:39:46,140 --> 00:39:48,360 When you came in, the whole point of it was that it was bad. 702 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,100 I thought that was the whole point. Forget it. 703 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,560 I should realize that there are some things I can't trust you with. 704 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,300 Obviously, my innermost thoughts are at the top of the list. 705 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:07,300 I have to tell you, Daniel, I think that young woman architect did a superb job. 706 00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:11,100 You should tell her, Leland. I will if she hears. She couldn't make it. Leland, 707 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,760 Daniel. How'd it go? In all respects, successful. Congratulations. 708 00:40:14,330 --> 00:40:17,290 Thank you. I'd like to meet Nat Pincus, Morgan Farrell, Neela McKenzie, and 709 00:40:17,290 --> 00:40:18,750 Danny Morales. How do you do? Hi. 710 00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:22,270 Stewie, I want you to meet Nat Pincus. This is my cousin and colleague, Stuart 711 00:40:22,270 --> 00:40:25,690 Markowitz. Pincus. Pleasure. So, there are two Jews who work here. 712 00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:29,550 You know, I saw you many years ago at the Eden Rock Hotel in Miami Beach. 713 00:40:29,670 --> 00:40:31,670 Really? Yeah. What was I doing there? 714 00:40:31,970 --> 00:40:33,130 You were performing. 715 00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:35,250 I thought I was Lloyd. 716 00:40:35,710 --> 00:40:37,070 No, you were very funny, actually. 717 00:40:37,330 --> 00:40:38,029 Thank you. 718 00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:39,030 Can I get you something? 719 00:40:39,110 --> 00:40:41,710 Uh, just a cold drink, please. 720 00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:43,310 I'll make you a glass. 721 00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:48,360 Do you know much about the direct mail game? 722 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,180 Did I hear you say direct mail? 723 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:51,279 Yes, sir, you did. 724 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,320 Bobby Del Giotto, I built an entire business on direct mail. Dave Meyer, you 725 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,540 know much about vertical markets? 726 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,600 No, but I'd like to have you tell me. Freshen up his punch, would you, son? 727 00:40:59,980 --> 00:41:02,000 So you're asking me what I'm doing for New Year's Eve? 728 00:41:02,340 --> 00:41:03,340 Yeah, I'm asking. 729 00:41:04,420 --> 00:41:07,540 Isn't it a little late to be, you know, looking for a date? 730 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:12,800 No, I'm thinking of having a party. I'm going to have some friends over, have a 731 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,800 little champagne. 732 00:41:14,330 --> 00:41:15,330 Some dancing on the patio. 733 00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:16,970 Oh. So you're interested? 734 00:41:17,530 --> 00:41:18,530 Yeah, maybe. 735 00:41:18,890 --> 00:41:22,690 Good. Jonathan, there's a client or somebody looking for you. Oh. 736 00:41:23,690 --> 00:41:25,690 I'll call you about the details. Right. 737 00:41:25,930 --> 00:41:28,950 You haven't seen Ann through here. Yeah, I think she went that way. Hi. 738 00:41:32,790 --> 00:41:33,749 Hello, Denise. 739 00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:36,330 Hi. I wanted to say something to you. 740 00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:37,930 All right. 741 00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:41,990 Religious faith is a very personal thing. I know that. 742 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,600 And if I made you uncomfortable or somehow suggested that I was a better 743 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,340 than you, I want to apologize for that. 744 00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:50,880 The last thing I wanted to do was to judge you. 745 00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:55,280 Yeah, maybe I did make too big of a deal of it, and I guess I jumped to the 746 00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,280 wrong conclusion, huh? 747 00:41:57,660 --> 00:42:00,100 I, um, got you a Christmas present. 748 00:42:00,380 --> 00:42:02,480 Really? You didn't have to do that. 749 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,140 And I hope you will take it in spirit and we just give it. 750 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:08,860 Should I open it now? I mean, we're not going to be spending Christmas morning 751 00:42:08,860 --> 00:42:10,580 together, so... Sure. Yeah? All right. 752 00:42:11,870 --> 00:42:12,870 Love getting presents. 753 00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:19,650 Bible. 754 00:42:19,930 --> 00:42:24,890 I didn't know whether or not you had one, and I wanted to give you one. 755 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:26,710 Thank you. 756 00:42:26,930 --> 00:42:27,930 Merry Christmas. 757 00:42:28,130 --> 00:42:29,430 Merry Christmas to you. 758 00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:31,170 What do you think of the renovation? 759 00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:33,430 Oh, I love it. I think it's great. 760 00:42:33,650 --> 00:42:34,750 My office is next. 761 00:42:35,710 --> 00:42:36,710 Okay. 762 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:42,160 Okay. 763 00:42:42,820 --> 00:42:43,900 Let's talk in here. 764 00:42:53,220 --> 00:42:54,880 You want to be a father? 765 00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:56,500 Yes. 766 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,000 Okay. 767 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,400 Really? 768 00:43:01,180 --> 00:43:03,720 You left me, Tommy, and I was hurt. 769 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:05,840 I was angry. 770 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:08,800 I thought that if... 771 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,780 David adopted Casey, it would somehow change the way she came into the world. 772 00:43:15,020 --> 00:43:21,400 I can't do that. I can't change the fact that I came to you and asked you to 773 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,400 father my child. 774 00:43:24,580 --> 00:43:25,900 I don't know what to say. 775 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,740 But I can promise you I will never walk away. 776 00:43:41,230 --> 00:43:42,790 Merry Christmas, Roxanne. 777 00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:45,150 Merry Christmas. 778 00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:49,190 Guy goes into a bar, orders a scotch. 779 00:43:49,690 --> 00:43:51,370 He says, don't tell me what kind. 780 00:43:52,070 --> 00:43:56,570 Bartender pauses, takes a sip. He said, do us. He says, give me another brand. 781 00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:58,750 Bartender pauses. 782 00:43:58,990 --> 00:44:04,990 He says... Cutty, sir. 783 00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:08,870 Dear, are we doing it too? 784 00:44:09,110 --> 00:44:10,110 Sorry. 785 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:14,680 Bartender's getting sick of this. Goes outside, comes back with a plain bottle. 786 00:44:14,780 --> 00:44:20,800 Pause. Guy takes the drink. He says, God, this is urine. He says, yeah, but 787 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,800 whose? 788 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,260 That's good. That's good. 789 00:44:24,540 --> 00:44:28,700 Okay. Guy's bragging about his hearing aid. Says, this is the greatest hearing 790 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:29,700 aid you can buy. 791 00:44:29,780 --> 00:44:35,960 I spent $1 ,500 on this hearing aid. Friend says to him, he 792 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:37,300 says to him, 793 00:44:39,780 --> 00:44:42,680 What kind is it? He says half past four. 794 00:44:47,660 --> 00:44:50,680 The only Henny could do that joke. It's Henny's joke, honey. 795 00:44:53,940 --> 00:44:59,160 Guy goes home to his wife and he finds in his bed his partner. 796 00:45:02,940 --> 00:45:09,300 The guy goes into the kitchen and he says... Goes into the kitchen and he, 797 00:45:09,300 --> 00:45:16,140 The wife says... She 798 00:45:16,140 --> 00:45:20,320 says... Can I finish it, honey? 799 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,660 Come on, let me finish it, okay? 800 00:45:24,380 --> 00:45:29,140 So the wife says, um, what are you doing standing here drinking coffee? 801 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,600 And she says, what about your partner? And he says, let him get his own coffee. 802 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:41,680 You ready to go, Nat? 803 00:45:43,540 --> 00:45:44,540 Bye, everybody. 804 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,200 Bye. Happy holidays.